Help dating Futurematic movements

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Help dating Futurematic movements

Postby jellish » Wed Sep 20, 2023 12:21 pm

Hi all! I have a number of Futurematic movements I'd love to have help with dating, and since I can't buy Zaf's awesome book currently, here goes!
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Thank you so much.
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Re: Help dating Futurematic movements

Postby zafbasha » Fri Sep 22, 2023 11:09 am

1951, 1953, 1953, 1954, 1954, 1956

That is when they were produced as a movement, which could be cased later.

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Re: Help dating Futurematic movements

Postby jellish » Fri Sep 22, 2023 3:02 pm

Thank you Zaf! Really appreciate it.

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Re: Help dating Futurematic movements

Postby jellish » Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:18 pm

Here is an odd one (to me at least?). I just repaired a 497/1, with a serial that would put it before my 1953 serial above. I thought the 497/1 was a later revision, but apparently not! Weird.

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Re: Help dating Futurematic movements

Postby frontfloater » Wed May 01, 2024 8:03 am

Can someone please advise? My watchmaker is currently servicing my gold European Futurematic, and has asked me to obtain replacement 3rd and 4th wheels (parts 210 & 224) as the originals are rusty. When I looked on the Perrins Canada website, they show both parts in stock at reasonable prices - but in each case, they have separate listings to fit the cal. 497 and 497/1.

I tried to research the difference, but Wiki and various other websites only mention that JLC used these two movements, without describing the differences. And to add to my confusion, the movement pictured here in the previous post has 497 engraved on the rotor weight, but 497/1 below the balance-wheel.

Is there any difference in practice between these calibres, in relation to fitting these two components? And if so, how do I know which movement is in my watch - do I use the number near the balance-wheel, or the one on the rotor?

Thanks in advance for any help.

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Re: Help dating Futurematic movements

Postby zafbasha » Wed May 01, 2024 8:59 am

The parts in question should be the same between 497 or 497/1....maybe ask Perrin why they'd be different, but I expect them to be the same.

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Re: Help dating Futurematic movements

Postby frontfloater » Wed May 01, 2024 9:02 am

Thank you Zaf, for your fast and helpful reply.

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Re: Help dating Futurematic movements

Postby zafbasha » Mon May 06, 2024 2:04 pm

You're welcome; I have those as used parts if Perrin doesn't.


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